tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post7333796748395029194..comments2024-01-24T11:41:28.022+00:00Comments on A Cuban In London: Saturday Evenings: Stay In, Sit Up and Switch OnA Cuban In Londonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16423293358605007539noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-29194075735883208102016-02-05T08:31:28.685+00:002016-02-05T08:31:28.685+00:00Charlie Hebdo are always too extreme for my tastes...Charlie Hebdo are always too extreme for my tastes, even though I support their right to free speech, I agree with you - we should all exercise more cautionCrafty Green Poethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02486633917197181851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-14750059270354317782016-02-03T00:45:07.385+00:002016-02-03T00:45:07.385+00:00I think we need to be careful with our speech, whe...I think we need to be careful with our speech, whether free or not and how it will affect other people ~ I don't agree with making fun of other people or issues just for the heck of free speech, but what purpose will it ultimately serve ~ Thanks for the thoughtful post ~Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02213172239590722747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-80028572051659688772016-02-02T17:00:52.249+00:002016-02-02T17:00:52.249+00:00Well said, dear Cubano. Please send your post to y...Well said, dear Cubano. Please send your post to your local newspaper as an op.ed. More people need to read and think about this topic. Muchas gracias.Rosaria Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133147851332084180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-18478699680308352902016-02-01T15:41:30.790+00:002016-02-01T15:41:30.790+00:00Personally I think the Charlie Hebdo cartoon was r...Personally I think the Charlie Hebdo cartoon was really horrible. I don't suppose they're aiming it at people like me though. Any attempt to read more meaning into it than a dead child is really pretty crass. The fact that a little child is dead is a big enough meaning as far as I am concerned. <br />I do defend Charlie Hebdo's right to speak freely however offensive. But I also think that people who push the limits are in fact furthering intolerance, because it is so hard for so many people not to feel disgusted at them. And once the unacceptable becomes OK then we are all a bit the poorer, I'd say. <br />Jenny Woolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16881781466502273314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-69328311034476653792016-02-01T03:13:02.926+00:002016-02-01T03:13:02.926+00:00Another way to look at this situation is that all ...Another way to look at this situation is that all ideas---freedom of speech, freedom of press--carry consequences--both good and bad. The key is ultimately to examine the motives in either case and since much in the US is dominated by fear, the need for control and money, for example, who comes out on top in any debate? That tells us a lot about actual versus stated values...Thanks for your thought-provoking post.ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11376645220662546020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-91868551225635519612016-02-01T02:02:12.359+00:002016-02-01T02:02:12.359+00:00This is always going to be a difficult area. On th...This is always going to be a difficult area. On the one hand there are legitimate concerns about irresponsible or hateful commentary and on the other there are legitimate fears about the slippery slope. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance--and endless arguing.Rob Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04741955202727936194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-30228782669876456492016-01-31T22:32:39.400+00:002016-01-31T22:32:39.400+00:00Free speech is a tricky issue. I appreciate the li...Free speech is a tricky issue. I appreciate the liberties we have in the USA but sometimes wish there were laws against hate speech. My son is taking a course on free speech this term at college in political science. I'll be curious to hear more about what he learned.Sarah Laurencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00423008641739156182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-42278377616565199792016-01-31T22:20:36.482+00:002016-01-31T22:20:36.482+00:00The little girl in that photo was featured in a Su...The little girl in that photo was featured in a Sunday Morning Show story. She's gone through numerous surgeries and lived a life of pain, but she's endured because of her powerful spirituality and positive outloo. A remarkable person.stephen Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17659054447637207734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-4793553304512777932016-01-31T20:38:34.986+00:002016-01-31T20:38:34.986+00:00Over and over again, I'm seeing my sentiments ...Over and over again, I'm seeing my sentiments reflected here.. that with free speech comes responsibility. Without it, it can be dangerous.Hilaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12787493532006658679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-2380897356904744572016-01-31T20:31:32.398+00:002016-01-31T20:31:32.398+00:00I have to agree, I wondered what they were thinkin...I have to agree, I wondered what they were thinking, then I remember Johnathan Swift and his "Modest Proposal" to end hunger in Ireland... Children do pull on our heart-string so perhaps that is why satirist use them. sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-25674317742899672602016-01-31T14:42:44.385+00:002016-01-31T14:42:44.385+00:00I cannot argue with your well-thought-out post. I...I cannot argue with your well-thought-out post. I always appreciate your analysis of current situations!Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07366010389846904663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-29817769777603180012016-01-31T14:37:10.852+00:002016-01-31T14:37:10.852+00:00Not an easy subject - with freedom of speech, come...Not an easy subject - with freedom of speech, comes great responsibility....a fact that all too often is grossly overlooked.<br />However, I guess the very phrase "Freedom of Speech" means just that...the freedom to say exactly what one feels or thinks.<br />Perhaps it is also up to the observer to decide how he/she interprets another's words...and whether or not to take their perceived meaning on board.<br />Phew...such a complex situation...<br /><br />Another immensely thought-provoking post, CiL.<br />Bravo!<br />Ygrainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00300519608303898969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-25619147336124342552016-01-31T08:55:19.521+00:002016-01-31T08:55:19.521+00:00Hi ACIL - it is a dilemma of many sorts we are mud...Hi ACIL - it is a dilemma of many sorts we are muddling around ... and dangerous. I particularly don't like a phrase being picked up and then social mediaed all over the place - we don't know the context ... it may not be right ... but it is probably spun and brought out into the open way too often.<br /><br />It is not easy ... free speech should remain ... gossip and hate should be left alone. HilaryHilary Melton-Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17596532480645510678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-64976740429434439112016-01-31T03:25:19.843+00:002016-01-31T03:25:19.843+00:00Publications such as Charlie Hebdo in France or Ro...Publications such as Charlie Hebdo in France or Rolling Stone in the United States are in the business, first and foremost, to make money. Being provocative is one means to make money. Just ask Donald Trump. Unfortunately, what often is considered "razor's edge" or avant-garde or "pushing the envelope" is nothing more than trite babble, especially when it comes to art. To spin a well-worn concept: One man's art is another man's garbage.<br /><br />The primary point, though, is that anyone crazy enough to shoot people because they or their religion or their girlfriend has been insulted is the problem; not the person who is (one more concept) too dumb to know he is dumb when he draws his cartoon or opens his mouth.<br /><br />Great piece of writing, CiL .... and, I think I will leave concepts regarding immigration alone today .... <br />Fram Actualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01540773153894050197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-20951029185454609722016-01-31T02:41:28.545+00:002016-01-31T02:41:28.545+00:00Agh. Agree with you here. What a sad situation on...Agh. Agree with you here. What a sad situation on all sides. A really interesting post, Cubano, thank you. k. Outlawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698845661756444061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-72848090069028218582016-01-31T00:26:22.225+00:002016-01-31T00:26:22.225+00:00Free speech is just that -free. We wish it would c...Free speech is just that -free. We wish it would come with a sense of responsibility, sensitivity but more and more often it does not. As well, there are actually incidents where free speech crosses a line, shouting fire in a crowd when there is none, etc. etc.<br />But it takes a certain kind of mind to produce a cartoon of this sort and even if it spurs us to search for a deeper meaning of hypocrisy, the fact that it can cause such pain makes me wonder why Mr. Hebo makes it so difficult to find that deeper meaning - if in fact it is there.<br /><br />But sadly, he is free to do that.livhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00091094639074377780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-49328838167230154902016-01-30T22:41:19.420+00:002016-01-30T22:41:19.420+00:00Siempre nos hace falta una imagen para actuar, lam...Siempre nos hace falta una imagen para actuar, lamentable es pero real.<br />Un feliz fin de semana.Mari-Pi-Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00661886117860375651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-37627055025012416452016-01-30T22:15:26.231+00:002016-01-30T22:15:26.231+00:00It's a thorny one - I think freedom of speech ...It's a thorny one - I think freedom of speech comes with responsibility to relfect on the impact of that speech on the feelings of others. I'm unhappy about anthing that plays into the hands of bigots - the ruefugee crisis throws up enough complexities without that. JOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03127111575563904349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-59297620837761401682016-01-30T21:58:00.281+00:002016-01-30T21:58:00.281+00:00Free speech is great to have indeed but people nee...Free speech is great to have indeed but people need to use common sense, which isn't so common anymore, sometimes before they open their yap.Pat Hatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07745293224202430152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-8265042119580837922016-01-30T21:46:38.939+00:002016-01-30T21:46:38.939+00:00Free speech is vitally important but I think cultu...Free speech is vitally important but I think cultural sensitivity is as well. I don't find cartoons like that funny or light-hearted. I think they are mean-spirited and that kind of treatment only inspires more hate and retaliation.Fly Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18191335990973494972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-86201071916260638962016-01-30T21:46:20.474+00:002016-01-30T21:46:20.474+00:00Free speech is vitally important but I think cultu...Free speech is vitally important but I think cultural sensitivity is as well. I don't find cartoons like that funny or light-hearted. I think they are mean-spirited and that kind of treatment only inspires more hate and retaliation.Fly Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18191335990973494972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-20084449731437562792016-01-30T20:51:19.214+00:002016-01-30T20:51:19.214+00:00No easy answers. Charlie Hebdo's work has alw...No easy answers. Charlie Hebdo's work has always struck me a poking a dog, known to be dangerous, with a stick and then expressing surprise when it bites. I AM in favour of free speech, but wish that we would better consider the messages that what we say and do sends. With rights come responsibilities. Elephant's Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650565833097914052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-20767327230222027442016-01-30T20:39:36.633+00:002016-01-30T20:39:36.633+00:00And what about the flagging sympathy for the refug...And what about the flagging sympathy for the refugees? Denmark's plan to seize anything over $1500 is unconscionable. Martyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02366449267039641100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-8149323993546679972016-01-30T18:28:51.476+00:002016-01-30T18:28:51.476+00:00Why aren't the wealthy gulf states - and Malay...Why aren't the wealthy gulf states - and Malaysia the world's largest Muslim - country helping all those displaced co-coreligionists? Deciding truth based on emotional stimulus is not the way to light in my opinion. Another thought provoking post! Thank YouCloudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05853753108637831069noreply@blogger.com