tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post135412700523623985..comments2024-01-24T11:41:28.022+00:00Comments on A Cuban In London: Sunday Mornings: Coffee, Reflections and MusicA Cuban In Londonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16423293358605007539noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-55165012266036543752013-03-06T19:01:07.106+00:002013-03-06T19:01:07.106+00:00Why do we need an abstract Hell when we have it on...Why do we need an abstract Hell when we have it on Earth? Genocide and war define it.<br /><br />A thought provoking post indeed!Sarah Laurencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00423008641739156182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-85553003126650880662013-03-05T10:20:28.503+00:002013-03-05T10:20:28.503+00:00You've set the cogs in my brain whirring again...You've set the cogs in my brain whirring again!<br />When you're faced with things like this, I think it's easier without faith...that only complicates everything (only my personal opinion, you understand!). <br /><br />Thank you for a very interesting discussion.Ygrainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00300519608303898969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-34242682786462446992013-03-04T22:56:49.257+00:002013-03-04T22:56:49.257+00:00I believe there is a(varying) bit of the saboteur ...I believe there is a(varying) bit of the saboteur in each of us. <br /><br />I am an atheist who sees hell as the worst of the human condition in concentrated form. My father fought in the Italian army during WW2. The everyman "turns"(if it is indeed a turn) more predatory just before, during, & after war. But later the revisionism starts, subject to the vagaries of memory(& lies). ~MaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-56141542390667204322013-03-04T20:53:04.709+00:002013-03-04T20:53:04.709+00:00Thank you for your comments. Gloria, I know that y...Thank you for your comments. Gloria, I know that you're using the generic "you". No worries.<br /><br />Greetings from London.A Cuban In Londonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16423293358605007539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-90359621466166380022013-03-04T14:25:12.406+00:002013-03-04T14:25:12.406+00:00When I said like you live I dont say you CIL is a...When I said like you live I dont say you CIL is about all of us sometimes all we have ours hell in life.Gloria Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03055543111865966546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-16853724689384761502013-03-04T14:23:11.671+00:002013-03-04T14:23:11.671+00:00Always I think sometimes the inferno or hell is in...Always I think sometimes the inferno or hell is in the life of someones. Like you live, how lived Mandela many years, Dachau, and others, really are hells and where you can see how humans destruyed each other . This make me sad and I dont think in religion.<br />Im christian and catholic but is not about religion, always amazed me all the pain, and bad things the man (generic) can make. <br />gloriaGloria Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03055543111865966546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-63819220364015519772013-03-04T13:35:03.555+00:002013-03-04T13:35:03.555+00:00Thought provoking, for sure! I agree with Levi in ...Thought provoking, for sure! I agree with Levi in your opening paragraph. Is anything really clear cut? There certainly is hell on earth. As for the afterlife...all we can do is speculate.Paula Scott Molokai Girl Studiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03358261311454047999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-14791253329074366392013-03-04T09:49:50.879+00:002013-03-04T09:49:50.879+00:00I agree with rosaria. Faced with such things, are ...I agree with rosaria. Faced with such things, are you better off with faith or without it? Obviously it depends upon the individual, but it would be interesting to know what exactly in the individual it depends upon! You've set me off, I think, on a long train of thought!Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-10142315720878648712013-03-04T04:04:24.417+00:002013-03-04T04:04:24.417+00:00In some ways I find the grey(ish) human hells more...In some ways I find the grey(ish) human hells more frightening. The borders are not clear, and neither are the entries and exits.Elephant's Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650565833097914052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-29699891176192485432013-03-04T00:33:05.933+00:002013-03-04T00:33:05.933+00:00Yes, hell is a relative concept. The idea has long...Yes, hell is a relative concept. The idea has long been pushed by religions to keep people in line but as Bob Marley sang, "think you're in heaven/when you're living in hell" it really depends upon your perspective.Fly Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18191335990973494972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-44074363139850096702013-03-03T22:43:51.081+00:002013-03-03T22:43:51.081+00:00thanks for the nice comment. :) I really needed it...thanks for the nice comment. :) I really needed it right now. <br /><br />I have not read any of the things you write about so I am unable to discuss it. But the singer you share today. A man of nature. I was a bit amused when I saw his naked feet. At home I am always barefooted. :)NatureFootstephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01340635075481959029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-60379448482630913462013-03-03T22:30:28.656+00:002013-03-03T22:30:28.656+00:00Me parece ya en este mundo que es un infierno para...Me parece ya en este mundo que es un infierno para ciertas personas así que ciertos países por el sufrimiento que tienen en vivir en ciertos momentos o periodos de su vida.<br />Supongo que el libro es bueno e interesante.<br />Un abrazoMari-Pi-Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00661886117860375651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-39728483691220233972013-03-03T22:11:46.674+00:002013-03-03T22:11:46.674+00:00Many thanks for your kind comments. One note, thou...Many thanks for your kind comments. One note, though. This is not a post about religion, the advantages or disadvantages of it. I only used religion, and especifically the Abrahamic faiths (although, I did manage to mention Buddhism, too) because of their belief in eternal damnation should a person sin in his or her life.<br /><br />Whilst reading Primo Levi's book (which I finished Friday gone) I realised that hell and the idea of it are not that simple. Black and white simple, I mean. There's a chapter in the book that deals with stereotypes which tries to shine a light on this whole "hell" business. According to Levi there have always been questions people have asked ex-prisoners and survivors of the Lagers. Why didn't you escape? Why didn't you rebel? Why didn't you flee when you knew the Nazis were coming? In short, why didn't you do something if you were living in this hell, or knew what you were about to experience? He offers very clear and convincing answers which you will only find out about if you read the book. I thooroughly recommend.<br /><br />But, I'll say it again, this is not a post about religion, but about the idea of hell some religions seem to have and how this idea contrasts with real life.<br /><br />I really appreciate your comments. Keep them coming! :-) I hope you have a smashing week ahead.<br /><br />Greetings from London.A Cuban In Londonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16423293358605007539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-48501551410847119562013-03-03T21:45:04.184+00:002013-03-03T21:45:04.184+00:00So many interesting thoughts in your post. I thin...So many interesting thoughts in your post. I think everyone somehow has to come up with a belief system that works for them & also not pass judgment on those who have other beliefs. Only one thing is for sure: Some day we will all find out! Thanks for the discussion.Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07366010389846904663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-8836083333675344202013-03-03T21:36:37.082+00:002013-03-03T21:36:37.082+00:00This is decidedly a difficult conversation to have...This is decidedly a difficult conversation to have, with or without religion. <br /><br />More often we make decisions that are at the edge of right or wrong such as investing in a mutual fund whose major holdings deal with oil extraction. <br /><br />We tend to live with such choices because we are really good at rationalizing and put our hands up because, somehow, if we have no control to change the world, why suffer the guilt?<br /><br />We are always in the middle of atrocities and yet, we sit at our dinner table and go on sipping our wine.Rosaria Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133147851332084180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-76889590964335594662013-03-03T15:42:17.609+00:002013-03-03T15:42:17.609+00:00Thanks for this very interesting post. The level ...Thanks for this very interesting post. The level of religious thought can be very shocking at times - people want simple answers to things that are sometimes almost imponderable. <br /><br />A very interesting article in yesterdays NY Times about the Holocaust - the documentation of 42,500 "lesser" camps, forced labor camps, ghettos etc. <br />http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/sunday-review/the-holocaust-just-got-more-shocking.html?_r=0<br /><br />k.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-4209054727992913402013-03-03T15:40:12.824+00:002013-03-03T15:40:12.824+00:00somehow this brought to mind one of my fav books i...somehow this brought to mind one of my fav books i ever read..it's called the hiding place by corrie ten boom and she describes her time in a concentration camp during world war II and somehow she managed to bring a piece of heaven into this hell and darknessClaudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03011763027311966186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-34675444804581953012013-03-03T14:30:46.646+00:002013-03-03T14:30:46.646+00:00Soldier on! Loved it!Soldier on! Loved it!tinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17415302577518111227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-2940592084597536962013-03-03T13:18:01.842+00:002013-03-03T13:18:01.842+00:00sadly, i like in a hugely fundamentalist town...an...sadly, i like in a hugely fundamentalist town...and we have those hell houses here every year...and while i am a christian, i am much more on the liberal side and really don't fit either...what is even sadder is there are plenty of the conservatives that have no problem telling me how wrong that is...i think in many ways the religeous fight the wrong things only further ostracizing themselves and undermining a message of love...is hell real, i will let you know when i get there....smiles.Brian Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722940075884718007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1165773290907101242.post-11432124150740813502013-03-03T13:01:47.222+00:002013-03-03T13:01:47.222+00:00Many lines seem to be drawn, as some sort of hell ...Many lines seem to be drawn, as some sort of hell does dawn.Pat Hatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07745293224202430152noreply@blogger.com